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Valuations

PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 1:44 pm
by cadger
Hi dont know if this has been asked before but, does anyone know if valuations of collections of smurfs have be done or not for insurance reasons etc... I got to thinking after spending hours on ebay looking at smurfs some which I would say were defo fakes, and not cheap !! :-? :o :beer:

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 10:34 am
by Rachel
Hi Cadger, it is something I have thought about quite a lot in the past. Actually valuing an entire collection is very difficult because there are so many factors involved such as the condition of the smurfs, which variations are included and probably the most difficult to establish, what exactly each smurf is worth, do you go by the catalogues / guides / Ebay / more esatblished collectors, dealers etc. I often have emails asking me to give a value to single smurfs and collections, for the more common smurfs it is fairly easy to give an approx. value but even then there is much to take into consideration. Here is an article I wrote sometime ago to help visitors to Blue Imps:
How much are my smurfs worth?
This is actually quite a difficult question to answer because there are so many factors involved. Firstly, there is a wide range in value between different figures because some smurfs were produced over a long period of time and have also had later reproductions, while there are other smurfs that were only produced for one year and only in certain regions. Smurfs of earlier productions and licenses will inevitably be worth more because they are harder to find than later reproductions. Condition of the smurf is also a big factor, a mint condition figure holds a far greater value than a figure that has been played with and has rubs, marks and discolouring present, also whether the original box or packaging is inlcuded will effect the price. Paint variations and promotional smurfs again vary in value due to the limited number of smurfs produced in often a single production and availability to the public at the time of release. With the huge increase in internet availabilty over the last few years with internet auctions and online selling, it is now increasingly difficult to definitely say how much a particular figure is exactly worth. The nature of auctions means that a smurf is worth how much someone else is willing to pay for it (or sell it for) at that particular moment in time - we have seen auctions finish for absolutely bargain prices and also auctions finish way above what we would consider a reasonable value for that figure. Online smurf shops and guides often mean guaranteed mint figures so prices do tend to be higher (this isn't always so) but availabilty isn't always great with certain rarer smurfs very difficult to find. There are a number of smurf catalogues and price guides available, again these prices don't always reflect the ever changing values that are being seen on Ebay and the online guides. You must remember most of these book catalogues are produced by smurf dealers, they are not done just for information purposes. Basically, check out the figure in question on Ebay, in on-line smurf shops and guides or in a catalogue, check to see what markings and paint variation it is, consider its condition and then try and work out roughly how much someone else would pay for it!

http://www.blueimps.com/smurf_faq.html#worth

As for insurance, I have contacted our company in the past and was told that I didn't need to insure the collection as a whole as every individual item would be automatically insured. Personally I would like to insure the collection as a whole but then of course you are back to the problem of how and where to get it valued. It is a difficult one I am afraid. :D

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:01 pm
by cadger
Hi thanks for your reply Rachel :D I agree with everything you say and think, my main concern is the national garage infomation i have, all the paper work, sales figures ,profit, promo stuff I have, I dont know if Its the only surviving portfolo from the 70s it wasnt designed to be kept or given to public just read and thrown :( Does anyone out there have the portfolo that I have ? :-? what value does it hold as I dont think one will pop up on ebay?, I dont want it to be lost in fire etc, so is in a fire proof safe! at the mo If your ever up north would you like to give a valuation? :?

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:31 pm
by Tojo
Hi Cadger, you've got some great stuff there. What I would call peripheral items (e.g. adverts, posters, stickers) are for me some of the most interesting things. Some of these items are possibly unique.

I remember the National stickers from when I was a kid. Lots of people had them on their car windows. I haven't got any National items unfortunately. I've only got one sticker so far which is from ASB & has the 1st aid smurf on it & the text "ich bin ein Rettungsschlumpf" (I'm a rescue smurf). My daughter got it from kindergarten when someone from ASB (a bit like Red Cross) visited & gave the children a 1st aid course.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:38 pm
by Rachel
Hi Cadger, to be honest I wouldn't even know where to start regarding your stuff as most of it is so unique. I am sure you probably are one of the very few if not the only one with all of these wonderful items and promotional info from this country. I can certainly understand why you want to keep it all safe and I am so glad to hear that you are doing just that. I know when I first rediscovered smurf collecting again I made a trip to the garage which had been our "local smurf garage" when I was a kid. I managed to track down the gentleman who was the garage owner during the 70's and 80's when the smurfs were being used, unfortunately he had NOTHING left, smurfs or the paper items etc. However, it was very nice chatting to him as he reminded me that the smurfs were that popular the garage had to install a caravan on it's forecourt to accomodate all the smurfy stuff and I had totally forgotten this, it really brought back some memories.

Thanks for posting all the pics, it is really interesting seeing all of the different items. If you ever decide you need a new home for the portfolio, pleeeeeease let me know. :-D :winks:

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 1:44 pm
by attombomb7
wow! wonderful! stuff!!


this should be in a museum!

thanks for replies

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 6:36 pm
by cadger
Heavy stuff I know have my dad to thank for it hes the man !! smurf forcourt seller and all that heres another picture, been at training tonight so this fits as I do karate hope you enjoy ( all original adverts) :D :beer:

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 7:49 pm
by Syd Smurf
Hi cadger

That is amazing stuff. As I said in the before it would be amazing to read through all of those newsletters...there is a ton of great info in there that I would love to know about. I am glad that someone has it all and is looking after it. I doubt anyone else would have it so I agree...your dad is de MAN :D