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PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:31 am
by Lia
Hi André

However 7 smurfs can be seen on these boxes, I think, only 5 of them were sold in the boxes, not the chimney and not the cyclist.
The chimney can be found in different colors

The quality of these 7 supers is far less, poorer, then the beautiful CNT smurfs!

The 10 spanish smurfs with trafficsigns or with other objects are normal Schleich smurfs, marked w.germany, only the objects, signs, are special and no idea who made them???

Lia

PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:51 am
by Tintin
Hi Lia

You could be right about the chimney sweaper and the cyclist.
But they are mentioned on the boxes..................

Years ago i was lucky to find 5 boxes, the ones i didn't find, you already guess.............. chimney sweaper and cyclist :-D

Tintin

PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:33 am
by Lia
exactly!! :lol:

No one has these two in OVP, so I suppose they were never sold with a box, however they certainly were intended to be, according to the text on the boxes. :(

Lia

PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:04 pm
by André
Thanks Frank and Lia :cheers:

I knew you were the ones to ask.

Lia is the red ladder the original one?

I remember I asked you Lia when i got the baby( sunbather) in a lot, if the quality should be that bad. :lol:

Jon showed us this ad from spanish newspapers in June 1983 which says:
" Schleich S c peyo firm, located in 7070 Schwäbisch Gmünd in Germany, is the owner of all rights of global fabrication of Smurf PVC figure and all accessories.
Held by Schleich S c peyo, several unauthorized reproductions of character "the Smurf", which are appearing in the Spanish market.
We hereby inform you that our exclusive importers in Spain are:
Mont-Torres, Granvia, n 641 Barcelona 10
who directly or through IREC SA, Granvia n 641, Barcelona 10, may market in Spain.
warning:
manufacturing and / or marketing unauthorized SMURF, accessories or any other character in our catalog, constitutes a serious violation of the rights of intellectual and industrial property of Schleich S c Peyo, in the terms that is protected by current legislation.
Schleich S c Peyo, is determined to take legal action against violators of such rights immediately, with all the harshness that the law allows." Google translate just so you understand approximatly what it says. :D

Maybe they stopped because of this before manufacture the last 2?? :-? And then the signbearers where produced in germnay and just added the special signs for the spanish market after mid 1983??

I have a small booklet for the spanish market with the IREC SA.- address. That was the company distributing the smurfs in Spain I assume from the news-ad.? :cheers:

PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:33 pm
by Lia
I doubt very much if the red ladder is original, but it was sold with the chimney...so I prefer to leave it with the figurine

Just for the ones who don`t know the spanish signbearers, I`ll add some pics.

The spanish smurfs are the big mysterie amongst smurfs, right?
We`ve found more answers about the Minimodels and Hering then the mysterious spanish:))))

PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:34 pm
by Lia
signs complete

PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 12:48 pm
by André
Probably because they made many fakes in Spain. The proof for that is that the ad says that. So before mid 1983 probably several fakes were sold in stores otherwise they would probably not put in a ad like this. Then they would probably only contact the company making them. So it seems many companies made fake smurfs and that is also maybe the reason why we find so many different fakes from Spain.

In the SCCI letters a collector says he found all the signbearers with the signs and the other accessories in Spain already in 1980 or 1981 when he was there on holiday. So these could also be unlicensed smurfs. Just some company using germansmurfs and adding the accessories?? Could off course also be licensed trough Peyo then?? Or the collector giving us the wrong years! :-?

As you say it is hard to say, when as Joaquin said licensed smurfs and unlicensed smurfs were sold at the same time in Spain. that would also open for possibilities to mix genuine smurfs with fake accessories and vice versa. :banghead: :lol:

PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:49 pm
by Lia
I have a spanish house that was wrapped in a package that shows the same smurfs as the super boxes.

I have only the house, but I have a picture from the bag

Lia

PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 4:51 pm
by Lia
bag

PostPosted: Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:50 pm
by Pitufo
Nice to see you all interested in spanish smurfs...

As Lia says, spanish smurfs are the greatest mistery in smurfland. There are many many kinds of spanish smurfs. Not all of them, but many of them were sold in the same stores than the licensed ones.

The cnt ones were sold in the same stores than schelich ones (you all know they are very good quality smurfs). I can´t remember where the spanish smurfs in boxes were sold but I think because of their quality they were sold in other kind of stores

Pitufhogar smurfs sets were sold in good stores. It is odd but they have a copyyright, so thay could be considered as "licensed"

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:25 am
by André
Thanks Joaquin,

:cheers:

I did not notice the picture on your housewrapping before Lia. That together with the other boxes is a great fantastic collectorsitem!! :-D :gimme:

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:56 am
by Tintin
Hi

Not only there are a lot of variations from the chimneysweaper,
but also others can be found in different colours.

Tintin

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 10:58 am
by Lia
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh Frank....I`m really jealous 8-)

what a great smurfs!!!

Lia

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:26 am
by André
Fantastic Frank!! :cheers:

Don't forget me when you write your will! :lol:

Would you say the accessories, like the skateboards, are the same as the Schleich skateboards?

PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:31 am
by Tintin
Hi

Thank you all...............................
My will, i am planning to stay alive and healthy for a looooooong time.
So no will....................yet :-D

The skateboards and the skies look very much the same, exept the colour is a bit different.

I will take pictures, but that's going to be next year :)

Have a great evening and see you all in 2013

Greetings Tintin

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:22 am
by Lia
Finaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally, I found the house in OVP!
Very happy!!

Lia

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:22 pm
by Tojo
Wow that is very cool Lia :-D :cheers:

Well done on adding the house to your collection
:D

PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:26 am
by Lia
Thanks Toyo! :cheers:

(sometimes it takes years of patience to get what you want)

PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:27 am
by smurfoli
here you can buy the house...
good luck ;-)
oli

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Schlumpf-Schlump ... 4ac713ec85

PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:11 am
by André
Great addition for your collection. :cheers:

Boxes, cards, stickers etc tells us so much about the history. :-D